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Have you looked at the vpwiki API that Gus of VoodooPad fame, has 
developed?

This allows you to directly edit a Wiki, with the very nice VDP desktop 
wiki app... it's been interesting comparing the use of VDP and OO, as 
different approaches to a similar task, tracking information, keeping 
lists etc.

One thing that I have found useful has been to use VoodooPad as a way 
to manage multiple OO files, since there's no overarching management of 
files in OO. VoodooPad allows you to not only link files (with simple 
bullet lists, if you want), but also annotate these links... making 
somewhat of a 'console' or dashboard, if you like.

I have proposed (asked for!) features that would make it more feasible 
to use OO as a 'round-trip' external outliner for other applications; 
parsing predominently text-formatted outlines (e.g. from email, web 
pages, wikis, simple text/word processors etc.), manage/rearrange/edit 
in OO, and insert back into the original doc/file (e.g. similar to 
Nisus Thesaurus' 'Lookup and Replace Selection' system service, or FTP 
clients passing a file to BBEdit/SubethaEdit etc., for editing and when 
those programs save, 're-uploading' the file.

As noted, this would require some smarts on OO's part, to be able to 
parse the various outline formats into a structured doc... you might 
see this working somewhat like Excel's import, that allows you to 
tinker with the delimiters etc., until the import looks the way you 
want it.

With it's new features, in particular the XML handling and XSLT-based 
exporting/transformation, OO3 could become a seriously strong general 
data/list manager extraordinaire, and indispensable tool, in addition 
to it's use as a standalone application.


On 05/09/2004, at 1:17 AM, Tim Pritlove wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I would be most interested in a flexible way to exchange outlines with 
> Wiki pages. As most wikis do not share exactly the same syntax, this 
> should be highly configurable. Most important in my point of view is 
> MediaWiki (the Wikipedia software which shares most syntax elements 
> with UseMod).
>
> It regularly create outlines with OO and later paste them into a wiki. 
> Sometimes I want to reintegrate and collaboratively edited outline 
> back to OO. Having an import function would be a real hit!
>
> However. Export is most important. So an outline should be exportable 
> as
>
> * first level
> ** second level
> ** second level
> *** third level
> * first level again
>
> or using the "#" character creating a numbered list. The important 
> part is that one list character (*#) is added per level.
>
> Other Wikis (e.g. Twiki) might expect something like
>
> * first level
>   * second level
>   * second level
>     * third level
> * first level again
>
> This time the list character (*#) is included once but the indentation 
> is important (here it is two spaces per level).
>
> But please consider a wiki import function as well. This would be more 
> than great.
>
> Greetings
> Tim
>
>
> On 03.09.2004, at 23:59, James Moore wrote:
>
>> This list has seemed pretty dead lately so I thought I just poke it 
>> to make sure.
>>
>> We're hard at work on Outliner 3 still. Things are shaping up pretty 
>> nicely.
>>
>> One thing that I'm interested in finding out is what file formats are 
>> folks interested in exporting to?
>>
>> The reason I ask is that Outliner 3 is going to allow you to pretty 
>> easily create import and export plugins. I'd like to have a set of 
>> extra plugins available for download when we ship. I'm currently 
>> working on a new LaTeX export plugin. Some of the other formats we're 
>> working on are Excel (via HTML) and Apple Help. MS Word is going to 
>> be rolled in this time around.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -James
>>
>> Technical Support Engineer
>> The Omni Group
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>
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