OO3 is more and more like 'More'
Leon Spencer
leon.spencer at student.usyd.edu.au
Sun Dec 5 05:07:16 PST 2004
You do realise that inline notes can be turned off with a menu item,
don't you?
On 06/12/2004, at 12:00 AM, Bruce Lewis wrote:
> Yes. I too agree that the programme is closer to "More".
>
> A key for me is the inline notes. This is a great advantage. A few
> "constructive criticisms" about them.
>
> They are not implemented like More's. In more the notes were a separate
> little internal box or window with its own scroll bars. It was much
> easier
> to tell what was note and what was outline.
>
> You could set it so only part of the note was visible and the rest of
> the
> outline was visible below. You can do the same with the note pane on
> the
> bottom, but I would have liked it better in the inline notes.
>
> The inline notes weren't selected when they were oepend. I think this
> is a
> confusing and possibly dangerous behaviour.
>
> They were opened and created by a press of the enterKey. That seems to
> work
> in OO, but it takes the view to the end of the note, which is sometimes
> useful, but is the wrong place 90% of the time.
>
> The symbol for notes was much less obtrusive.
>
> More was snappier both with opening notes and with going down a level
> when
> clicking on handles. More was instant, but there is some sort of
> windowshade effect in OO. Can this be turned off as a user preference.
> Is
> this considered an advantage by some?
>
> Again, I think it is a great job and I am trying to be constructive.
>
> Bruce
>
> At 6:58 PM -0500 12/4/04, Paul List Hess wrote:
>> I'd like to be the first to comment, and hopefully other stalwarts
>> will
>> agree, that OO3 has taken a huge step towards being more like the
>> classic
>> More program that many of us learned to love years ago. I'm not
>> talking
>> about specific exact features but more in terms of the feel and the
>> soul
>> of the program it seems much more gracefully useful under a wide
>> range of
>> flexible circumstances than OO2 ever was.
>>
>> I, and others, came to OO hoping you would imitate every one of my
>> favorite More features and was initially disappointed with OO2 but
>> instead
>> with OO3 you've made a holistic elegant modern outline program along
>> the
>> same lines that the creators of More might have done if they had
>> written
>> it in the 2004's instead of way back so many years ago. I'm sure
>> we'll
>> keep saying "please include More's feature XYZ next" but I think
>> you've
>> done a great job on the overall usability.
>>
>> At 4:56 PM -0800 12/3/04, Ken Case wrote:
>>> I think our team has done an amazing job, and I hope you enjoy using
>>> OmniOutliner 3 as much as I do!
>>>
>>> http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnioutliner/beta/
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ken
>>
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