OmniOutliner 3 Public Beta

[Philip Butler]

Thanks for the comments Kathi - I am glad that I am not the only one 
wanting to use OO for task list uses.

Maybe we can persuade Omni to come out with an "OmniTasks" product that 
would have such.  I personally don't care about all of the "cosmetic" 
things such as fancy printing, embedding files, etc - I just want a 
tool that'll tell me what I should be doing.  (no comments from the 
peanut gallery please).  I can see that some of these features would be 
nice - I just want something where I can juggle my time among several 
projects efficiently.

Right now, I use a spreadsheet do do this and sort on the task type and 
on the priority.  It works, but doesn't give the the hierarchy that OO 
would.  There is a fine looking web-based product (www.taskspro.com) 
that may suit the bill - and they are coming out with a new version 
soon.  I don't mind setting up a linux server to host such or paying 
the Tasks Pro people (see also www.usetasks.com) to host on one of 
their servers.

Phil

On Dec 6, 2004, at 1:16 PM, Kathi Bade wrote:

> Phil -
>
> Thanks so much for giving a great example of exactly what I've been 
> looking for in OO - and exactly what I knew from email conversations 
> with James would not be in this version.
>
> This feature is what I need to make OO useful to me.  I'm a former In 
> Control user, and moving to OS X caused me to abandon in, because I 
> always seemed to have a problem shutting down Classic if In Control 
> was running.  Given that In Control is all I ran in Classic, this 
> didn't seem to be a winning situation.
>
> There is no product on the marketplace for OS X that replicates what 
> this marvelous piece of software used to do.
>
> I thought I could maybe make OO work for me, as it does have a very 
> nice OS X interface, and lets me use the outline format which I love.
>
> But without exactly what you are asking for below, OO is just nowhere 
> near as useful as it needs to be for me.
>
> I'm having to seriously revise the way I manage my workflow because of 
> the lack of a product that effectively handles outlining and 
> scheduling; and it just might have involve another product as well as 
> other manual changes.
>
> I sincerely hope it doesn't come to that - I hope Omni hears this, and 
> moves this functionality up the priority list for the next version; 
> and that new version comes out SOON.  I won't buy another version 
> until this feature is here; and given how long it's taken Omni to get 
> this one out the door, I don't have hopes that it will be available 
> any time soon.
>
> Thanks again for stating so well what I really need also.  :-)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Kathi
>
> P.S. - I'd love your "point 2" also, although I've been putting all my 
> energies into "point 1"
>
>
> _________
>
> Congratulations on a fine new product - looks nice.
>
> However, from my opinion, it has little new functionality.  I was 
> really hoping that some of my suggestions from the summer would have 
> been put into OO3.  Now if OO3 Pro has this, I'll buy it in a 
> heartbeat.
>
> What I was hoping for was to use OO3 for my task list.  It can be used 
> for such (and always could), but a few keys were missing:
>
> 1)  be able to "unwrap" the hierarchical list during sort.  I want to 
> be able to do this:
> 								Priority
> 		Project A
> 			Task a1				Today
> 			Task a2				This week
> 			Task a3				Next week
> 		Project B
> 			Task b1				Next week
> 			Task b2				Today
> 			Task b3				This week
>
> could be sorted on the priority column to:
>
> 			Project A:Task a1				Today
> 			Project B:Task b2				Today
> 			Project A:Task a2 	This week
> 			Project B:Task b3 	This week
> 			Project A:Task a3 	Next week
> 			Project B:Task b1 	Next week
>
> In other words, I may have several "order something" tasks related to 
> different projects that I may like to do at the same time.
>
> 2) We need the ability to hide "done" items and re-show them.
>
> I recall emailing back and forth with a gentleman in the summer and I 
> was REALLY hoping that this type of functionality would be in OO3. 
> Like I say, if it's in OO3 Pro, I'll be the first in line to purchase. 
>  If not, then my search continues.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Phil Butler
>
> On Dec 3, 2004, at 7:56 PM, Ken Case wrote:
>
>> I think our team has done an amazing job, and I hope you enjoy using 
>> OmniOutliner 3 as much as I do!
>>
>> http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnioutliner/beta/
>>
>> 				Cheers,
>> 				Ken
>>
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